Fw RE Rod Recommendations - Doug Alexander

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Alexander" <>
To: "Bob Norwood" <>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [RODMAKERS] RE: Rod Recommendations


> Bob,
> The taper I use for the Payne 101 is different from the one you have 
> posted. I really like this taper.  I flame the culm to a rich brown if 
> that means anything to you.  If you want to take a look here goes:
>
> 0   .070
> 5   .098
> 10 .106
> 15 .123
> 20 .137
> 25 .152
> 30 .166
> 35 .172
> 40 .187
> 45 .200
> 50 .222
> 55 .225
> 60 .239
> 65 .254
> 70 .270
> 75 .285
> 80 .320
> 85 .326
> 90 .326
>
> I think this is a 5 wt. and use Scientific Angler WF-5 line.
>
> For the list I do not worry about uneven color from nodes.  I think some 
> node discoloration, including the occasional water mark, make it real. 
> When I build houses I use #1 common red oak hardwood flooring because of 
> the beautiful grain.  Each board is different.  There are more expensive 
> grades, showing little grain, of hardwood but it ends up looking like it 
> was painted, being so perfect.   So if you follow the analogy, I do not 
> want my rods to look like their plastic or painted.  I want them to be 
> used.
> Doug Alexander
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Norwood" <>
> To: "Neil Savage" <>
> Cc: <>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:24 PM
> Subject: Fw: [RODMAKERS] RE: Rod Recommendations
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bob Norwood" <>
>> To: "Neil Savage" <>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RODMAKERS] RE: Rod Recommendations
>>
>>
>>> Neil;
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. a 13/64 is what I would think the 101 would
>>> require also. I am sending you a Adobe PDF copy of the rod taper from
>> Hexrod
>>> done in my spread sheet. As I say the  taper is from Hexrod, but as you
>> can
>>> see the stress curve is different, than the one in hexrod that one shows 
>>> a
>>> strp at 45" which is not there,this one ,I think is right.
>>> The bottom graph is the 101 taper comparied my  5 wt Straight Line 
>>> Taper.
>> As
>>> you can see the 101 is almost a SLT. The tip is a little weak but 
>>> regains
>>> its strength at 5' and there are a few stations, at 15-20-25 where the 
>>> rod
>>> is a little stronger than a SLT. Then at 50" it gets stronger again. not
>> by
>>> much but enough to make the rod a really strong one and, because of the
>>> early butt swell, stronger again, than just a straight taper.
>>>
>>> This taper is really a very fine rod, a true 5 wt and excellent design.
>>>
>>> Regards;
>>>
>>> Bob Norwood
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Neil Savage" <>
>>> To: "Bob Norwood" <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Fw: [RODMAKERS] RE: Rod Recommendations
>>>
>>>
>>> > Bob, in October last year, Peter sent this.  Hopefully, he will 
>>> > amplify
>>> his
>>> > remarks soon.  Neil
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Peter McKean" <>
>>> > To: "mark dyba" <>
>>> > Cc: "rodmakers" <>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:39 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [RODMAKERS] RE: Rod Recommendations
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "... I know that I repeat myself often on this subject, but in my
>> opinion
>>> > the
>>> > > Payne 101 as designated by Denis Higham is the best rod ever 
>>> > > designed
>>> for
>>> > > fresh water river fishing for trout.  With the 98 not far behind.
>>> > >
>>> > > I have always made the 101 by sort of fudging the ferrule stations 
>>> > > so
>>> they
>>> > > both fit a 13/64 ferrule, but I am coming to think that maybe these
>>> > classic
>>> > > tapers were not designed for modern ferrule configurations, so am 
>>> > > now
>>> > going
>>> > > to build a few using step downs...."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
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