Re good rod, bad rod - KyleDruey



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Peerless PowerPakt 8' 6" 5wt 3pc - The taper of this rod seems very 
interesting, and the action Barry describes is appealing.  Anyone else know 
anything about this rod?  Is this rod considered a classic?

I am new to bamboo rods, but as I get a little more in to it I am finding 
stress curves to be very helpful.  This rod peaks about 1/3 of the length, 
dips down and troughs, then has another peak of roughly the same height at 
about 2/3 (see attached file).  Maybe I don't know enough just yet but this 
would seem to be a fun rod to cast - and fish!

I agree with the comment that was made regarding this list having a very low 
flame level relative to other lists (visit the homebrew digest list some 
time).  You all have a great list here.

Thanks,

Kyle



In a message dated 11/08/2001 9:20:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
 writes:

> 
>  Onis - 
>  
>  I've been struck with the way you can have two experienced casters, who
>  describe the behavior of a "good rod" in similar terms, but who prefer
>  different taper styles. One may like straight tapers like Garrison's, the
>  other may be talking about very compound tapers like a Phillipson, or a
>  so-called "parabolic" rod (one that flexes a lot in the butt while having a
>  relatively stiff tip and mid section). I think an individual's body 
dynamics
>  must have a lot to do with the tapers he or she prefers, so I suspect it's
>  as much a question of a good match between a person and a rod as it is 
"good
>  rod, bad rod."
>  
>  My personal answer to "good rod" is a taper that, when cast gently, flexes
>  mainly in the top third of the rod, but when pushed for more power flexes
>  rather deeply into the butt. At least that's how I experience them. The 
ones
>  I like have tapers like the Phillipson 8 1/2 ft 5 wt PowerPakt. When you
>  graph these tapers (with distance from the tip along the x axis and
>  flat-to-flat dimension along the y axis) you get a line with a
>  characteristic shape. Just about where each ferrule is located you have a
>  steep section (an area where the shaft is getting thicker at a faster rate 
-
>  that is, a stiff area). Just before and after these steep areas are
>  relatively flat areas (where the rod does not thicken as quickly - these
>  areas flex more as the energy of a cast travels down the rod shaft). These
>  are VERY compound tapers, compared to Garrison-like tapers where the line 
on
>  the graph goes up at about the same slope the whole way (after the first 
few
>  inches), or a "parabolic" rod where the line is like a long low hump, which
>  approaches a flat line in the butt. To me, the different shapes of these
>  lines are easy to translate into the action of a rod, which I find 
difficult
>  to do when looking at stress curves. Anyway, that's my idea of a good rod.
>  
>  I haven't seen comments on this on the list, but I think these tapers I 
like
>  lend themselves to 3-piece construction because the extra stiffness at the
>  ferrules actually helps. Other tapers might not work so well in 3 pieces 
and
>  would be better in two or even one piece. But I don't think a taper of the
>  kind I like would be much better as a one-piece rod, because as I said the
>  ferrules seem to help. This is just my impression, I haven't tried it. 
Those
>  on the list who like one-piece rods - what kind of tapers do you use for
>  them?
>  
>  Barry
>  
>  
>   -----Original Message-----
>  From:     [mailto:k5vkq@ix.netcom.com] 
>  Sent:    Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:22 AM
>  To:  
>  Subject: good rod, bad rod
>  
>  I would like to start a new thread.  I've been working on a taper and have
>  been revisiting the archives.  This time something occurred to me. What
>  differentiates a good rod from a bad one.  In looking at the stress curves
>  of different rods, most show the greatest stress near the tip but some show
>  the greatest stress at the butt.  Some are designed to distribute the 
stress
>  evenly across the rod.  Some have a uniformly increasing diameter with
>  various slopes to the change while others have the "parabolic" change.  
Some
>  are "smooth" tapers while others have multiple radical changes in slope of
>  the taper.
>  
>  What I am getting at is that looking at the curves, basically any "stick" 
of
>  bamboo would fall into near/on one of these tapers.  There is a pretty wide
>  latitude between the "fast" rods in the archive and the "slow" ones.  In
>  other words, give a monkey a knife and some strips of bamboo. Let him
>  whittle them and glue the results together and (within reason) it would fit
>  within the range of tapers in the archive when matched to the right(?) 
line.
>  So, what makes a good taper?
>  
>  Regards,
>  Onis
>  
>  
>  
>  
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