Re Spey rod - Joseph West

Anyone ever build the Payne in Jack Howell's book?

Markus--- I love spey rods more than life itself, but I do not like 13'+
cane spey rods very much.  I feel them to be too heavy in general and WAY
too tip heavy as well.  To get any kind of balance, one much use a monster
old brass reel a la Mallochs or John Forrest (but you have a big heavy
Young, right?) in the 15-24oz range--- thus leading to a really heavy rig in
the 3lb+ range (or a rig so tip heavy you fight it all day if you use a
moderate weight reel).

With that said, there really are few rivers where one needs a 13'+ rod.  A
decent spey caster can cover ENORMOUS amounts of water with 11-12' rods,
save some weight, and have less tip heaviness.  If you are truly going to be
fishing 5/0-10/0 salmon flies with sinking or intermediate lines, then think
about the 13'+ size, but I'll play devil's advocate and say that you'll have
a more enjoyable FISHING experience with a shorter and perhaps slightly
lighter (7/8wt) rod-- and just use sink tips.

With all of this said, if anyone could make a 13' rod fishable and fun, it
is probably you.  

A spey will be my next rod, too.  Probably the Waara (IS that actually the
spelling of his name?)

Cheers--

Joe



On 8/15/04 8:58 PM, "Bob Maulucci" <> wrote:

> Hi Markus:
> There are several here.
> http://www.uwm.edu/~stetzer/Tapers/drtapers/index.html Take a look at
> the Horgaard models, there are three to choose from. For lighter lines,
> there is the 12' Waara and the 12' Grantham there that seem like the
> would do the trick fro a 6/7. You might convert it to a longer and
> heavier rod, but I am not a big proponent of major taper stretches.
> 
> Based on the best advice I have received on speys, you might do well to
> start with .100" tip and build upon that using the Powell C formula.
> Several speys I have cast were variations on that theme and they worked
> marvelously. I want to say they were a C10 4/5 1/5, but I canšt remember
> for the life of me.
> 
> Marty Karstetter is the man to ask, and I do not believe he is online
> with us.
> 
> 
> Bob Maulucci
> 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:19 PM
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> Subject: Spey rod
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I plan to make a spey rod as next.
> The length should be around 13 feet and the line weight somewhere in
> the range 8-10.
> Any taper suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best,
> Markus
> 
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